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Apr022009

CO-OP 0104--GDC 2009 Special--A Roundtable Discussion


GDC offers so many interesting panels, keynotes, and activities that it's impossible to see everything. Many sessions overlap or conflict with other appointments so we were very lucky to get John Davison, Jeff Cannata, Adam Sessler, Sterling McGarvey, Will Tuttle, and Patrick Klepek to drop into our discussion about what struck a chord with us last week. Matt, Ryan, Cesar, and I represented for Area 5.

Area 5 spent a lot of time checking out sessions at the Indie Games Summit that covered everything from five minute rants to panels on best practices for the indie businessman. The Inependent Games Festival (IGF) Pavilion was filled great games to talk about including, Feist, Blueberry Garden, Unfinished Swan, TAG, and too many other gems to mention this week. Fear not! Next week we'll be dedicating the entire episode to the indie game scene with a expanded look at the games and developers.

The presentation for Rearden Lab's potentially awesome OnLive service was the talk of the show. Regardless of hardware, OnLive is supposed to deliver 720p gaming to anyone with an Internet connection--provided that Internet connection is super fast. Still, we can't help discuss the possible implications this would have on how we access and play games.

The Nintendo Keynote had it's highs (DSi, Zelda: Spirit Tracks) and lows (Rock & Roll Climber) and we also talk about our play time with Punch-Out Wii and a surprisingly awesome racer, Excitebots: Trick Racer from the expo floor. Just about everyone had something to say about Fat Princess and inFamous which were available to play at Sony's Lounge and Matt (the lucky bastard) got to check out PixelJunk Eden's upcoming expansion, Encore.

The Area 5 crew also had their collective minds blown by 3D Technologies and Sony after playing Wipeout HD in amazing stereoscopic 3D. We had to hide the Area 5 credit card from Ryan. Turns out you need a special TV for the tech to work properly and, well, we can think of a few better uses for the cash (for now).

Reader Comments (32)

Broken URLs in a bunch of those links Mr. Fresh! :)

April 2, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterBrian Haberer

Doh! That's totally my fault. Links should be fixed now :)

April 2, 2009 | Registered Commenterjayfresh

thanks guys, big fan

April 2, 2009 | Unregistered Commenterkinetix

Yeaaaa! Announcer guy is revealed. Glad to see the voice overs improving. It is becoming much more professional, and that can only help the show and area 5. It's great to see you guys branching out to other media outlets, using other people from other shows really says a lot about what you guys are trying to do with the show.

With each episode, I see more and more subtle improvements (aside from the camera guy and boom getting in the master shot, but no biggie).

I say it every week, you guys are awesome. Keep it up.

April 2, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterTodd

I'm so glad to see that things are going well for you guys. I think I speak for a lot of folks when I say that I eagerly look forward to your production each week. Thanks so much for keeping the dream alive.

April 2, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterRobert H.

That was an amazing roundtable guys! It's awesome how you managed to wrangle in so many great gaming-journalism personalities at once to discuss such things as the OnLive service and IGF.

@Todd, I would imagine the boom/camera in the frame were intentional design choices. Whether they worked or not is up for debate/personal opinion. I like "behind the scenes' shots like that, although I prefer to see them from a wider angle so that the choice seems more intentional instead of coming off as a potential mistake.

Questions for the crew: did you use a blue filter in post or is the color cast at the table just sunlight? Also, is there any plan for doing more roundtable discussions like this? I REALLY like this format, although I know it's hard to organize. Finally, where have the snacks gone!?

April 3, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterJonathan Hunt

Another great episode guys. Also this totally reminded me of the 1up RSVP special you guys did quite awhile ago. That was totally awesome and I'd love to see something similar again.

April 3, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterChurchy

Hey there guy...

Just wanted to congratulate you guys on the awesome content you keep pumping out...Area5 is responsible to making me feel closer to an industry that is, in reality, thousands of miles away (Brazilllian fan over here). Keep it up boys!

I have one question...im a sucker for HD content but i get some weird "compressed" effect when watching the high-end HD files you have on the site..do i have a coded problem or is it all part of the encoding you guys are using?

Thanks in advance!
GeekIndustries

April 3, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterGeekIndustries

@Jonathan Hunt ... We mostly color-correct the hell out of our footage, so the blue was largely a design choice, though that area was, in fact, quite blue thanks to the tinting on the windows at the Moscone convention center. The wide shot on the tripod was done using a Kodak Zi6 that was way up on a table so we really didnt have a way of monitoring it to make sure that the gear was out of the shot. We figured that given the nature of what we were covering it would be okay :)

@Geekindustries ... Yeah we're working with Revision3 on their compression settings. They're aware that some of the footage in the ultra-high file isn't coming out the best, but overall they've done a pretty good job of balancing delivery size with quality. In our ideal world we'd just give y'all the raw, uncompressed, 9-13 Gig DV HD file but that's not really that practical ;) ... Revision3 actually created their 30fps setting just for our show because of the game footage.

April 3, 2009 | Registered Commentermatt chandronait

It's good to see you guys are still going strong, and keep up the good work.

BTW... The fucking site is AMAZING!

April 3, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterNYKnicker

Great show! Continue to produce this awesome content.

I'm REALLY interested in the 3D HDTV Sony setup. If you guys ever decide to do a videogame technology segment please do one detailing the progress being made on 3D TV... It looks like it'll be the next big thing in home entertainment, and gathering from the facial expressions from your show... It may be my next big purchase to plan for.

Unfortunately the technology doesn't demonstrate well by conventional means so I'm going to rely a lot on first hand user impressions.

April 3, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterJamieson

Yet another fantastic episode! Now I really want the game where you fatten up the Princess! It looks like an awesome twist on the capture the flag scenario you see in every multi-player game in which I get board of seeing. Ohh, and OnLive. If that works it will be awesome, but with ISP's all over the U.S capping data transfer and people having to pay more for unlimited bandwidth over here in England (I get 15 megabit speed and unlimited data transfer, its awesome!!!1!) I doubt that many people will risk buying it unless they have it bundled with the Interweb contract.

April 3, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterDan Baker

Maybe it's just me but I can never get the Share Article button to work right. I tried it in both FireFox and Chrome and when you click the share article button the box drops down but it doesn't layer itself over the top of the video bellow it. Instead the video is on the top layer and you can't see the share this box that appears to be behind it.

Anyone else having this issue?

April 3, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterKevinP

Lol @ Sessler's Resident Evil 5 reference.

Also, I wonder who does the Netflix ad voice... hopefully not Fresh.

April 3, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterSJS

Is there any plans to put this up on the Zune Marketplace? Also, which channel would you prefer we watch it on? I have been watching it on Youtube but I want to make sure you get the most bang for my eyes.

April 3, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterDan D

You guys should try to get some Zune video podcast support

April 3, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterDirectorDS

Okay, I'm dumb, didn't look above my comment. Whoops! But yeah, anyway, you guys make amazing videos.

April 3, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterDirectorDS

Interesting. I hardly expected jayfresh to be the one who did the voice overs- bowen or bertrand sounded more likely

April 3, 2009 | Unregistered Commenterkonjak

Wow.. This episode and the last feel really really solid. I feel like you guys are really hitting your stride. I love the way you are using the visual medium to its fullest--the split screens and cutting away to video of what is being discussed. Keep up the great work.

April 4, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterJacob

Great episode. It's always good to see a round table discussion.

Had a question about the song played from 22:50-23:15. Was that in-game music or a track the guys put into the edit? Artist name? Thanks!

April 4, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterMachado

Its absolutely retarded to say the On Live will bring the no console future, dont you think that there will be competators?
There will allways be the competition. On Live is a console for it is a platform, not in the sens you know today.

There's allready a dutch company working on a competator. Sony registered PS Cloud.

People who say one console future are people with a very limited view of how the entire world works, THERE IS ALLWAYS COMPETITION. In everything on the entire fucking planet. But its what makes us strive forward. So embracing one thing as a god is very dumb thing to do.

As for tech
You obviously haven't ever heard of laws of physics or havent thought it through.

LIGHTSPEED(roughly): 300 000 Kilometers / second
Lets say you live 300 Kilometers from the server and you have the very extremely unlikely direct fiber connection to the server with no silicon or graphene tech in between, just lightspeed coms. It would take 1 milisecond for the stream to hit your tv and your buttonpress would take 1 milisecond to return to the server, now the game has to process this action and send the stream back to you, this goes on with a latency of 2 miliseconds.
Now just add the latency created by the controller, your tv, and the On-Live box.

Then there is the need for QUANTUM computers to make serverfarms capable of running Crysis for more than 1 million users.

To make this work without too much latency would require a shitload of wormholes, yes wormholes, or warp communication, and quantum computing.
I like the idea but its not feasible, not at least in the next 100 years.
So please do your homework before making such statements if you want to be taken seriously as a gamer or a critic or even a person.

As for the rest nothing but kind words for the show, its still the best i have seen across the internets.

April 4, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterGert

great eps, loved the round table discussion. I have listened to a few podcasts/vids this week from GDC and this is the only one that has not been an unedited mess. keep up the great work.

April 4, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterAl

That was easily one of my favorite episodes, even more than 1UP Show episodes. Really insightful game discussions at the roundtable, and the entire format just felt so natural.

April 4, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterAvi Mukherjee

I find it funny how they kept saying things were different for them this year at GDC. I guess that just means that with Area 5 and Co-Op, they have been reborn into something greater than before! >:)

April 4, 2009 | Unregistered Commentern00body

Nice show even though youre pretty clueless to call iPhone an open system

April 4, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterNB

Another great one guys! Keep it up!

oh and more .tiff please.

April 6, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterRob

Nice episode.

April 10, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterBillen

Really nice show, really professional.. loved it!! Keep going.

April 13, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterMosqito

Nice episode guys!

April 18, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterRoller

This is an incredible episode so far, guys. It's what I love best about Co-Op: awesome people sitting around, talking about games. I'm only two-thirds through it and I feel I have to stop and play more PixelJunk Eden Encore before I hear you guys talk about it. I want to be able to contribute an internal discussion -- that's how much I enjoy the show.

That said, I've missed three weeks of episodes. If they're all as good as this one's been so far, it'll be a great waste of time.

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